Show #158 – Digital Nutrition – Seeing Digital Media Interaction in a New Light


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Love our new show tune in the intro/outro? It’s talented Australian independent artist Melanie Horsnell’s song “Birds”. Pop a note in the comments section this week if you’d like her album – I’m giving 10 away to the first 10 comments!




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And onto this week’s show!

Enjoyed the new music for the show? It’s a song “Birds” from Independent Australian Artist Melanie Horsnell from her 2005 Album “The Adventures Of” available along with her other fine albums over at (digital download for instant access!)

Have you heard of the many ways we should be consumed with guilt for wanting to interact with digital media – you need to digital detox. You need a digital diet. Just another thing to feel guilty about or feel bad about letting our children do as a parent. Well, it was definitely a topic I wanted to discuss on the show, but I wasn’t loving the deprivation / I’m a bad person vibes that so regularly form the discussions around tech and overuse or misuse. If teaching in the low tox space for 10 years has taught me anything, it’s that a positive mindset of “discovery not deprivation” works best for implementing changes, so we set out to find an expert who could help us navigate digital media. Enter Jocelyn Brewer, who is a Sydney-based registered psychologist with a special interest in the psychology of technology and staying human in a digital age. Alongside being part of the Cyberpsychology Research Group at Sydney University, Jocelyn is completing her Masters of Applied Science (Cyberpsychology) exploring the role of self-control and mindfulness in the prevention of Problematic Smartphone Use. This exploratory research surveyed over 500 Year 7 students in metropolitan Sydney and will be completed in 2019. The conversation we have is about the good and the bad, what to watch out for as a sign that addiction wheels are in motion, how to connect over tech instead of having it be something that distances you from your kids and how to raise them to have a healthy level of awareness and self awareness around their media use. It’s a conversation I’m proud to bring to the fore and I hope you love it as much as I did.



The questions I asked Jocelyn:

Digital media and kids has been a saviour for some situations (toddler at a restaurant!) but mostly feels like another thing that fuels parent guilt, yet it’s all happened so fast we don’t know what to do to correct overuse or how to go about the fact that our kids might arc up – significantly – when we reduce it!

Let’s start at the very beginning:

  • How do you define digital media?
  • Why do you call the work you do in educating in this space “digital nutrition”?
  • Is there an ideal time to start in life? What can we do to set a positive boundary for them to explore without addiction/harm
  • done by interacting with digital media?
  • You say there are 3 x M’s when it comes to digital nutrition. Can you share what they are and expand?
  • What do children get from digital media that they don’t get from traditional off-line play? Are there any known or proven benefits or should we all go back to 100% free-range?
  • How has digital media negatively impacted our kids?
  • What can we do as parents to get involved and play a positive role in their digital media interactions?
  • Do girls and boys use digital media differently when it comes to habits/purpose?
  • Are there particular alarm bells that digital media has turned from positive to negative in its impact?
  • Here’s a popular question from the community: My child is addicted to digital media: What do I do? They become defiant/tantrum/give me the silent treatment for days if I try to set boundaries. Help!


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      Yay! Isn’t it beautiful? First copy is yours Kristy. I’ll be sending you the digital download code once the 10 have commented x

  1. love the new intro and would love a copy of Melanie’s music. So funny, I did think I had clicked on the wrong podcast … even your voice sounded different. Fingers crossed I make the cut! Jacqui x

  2. Love the new song Alexx – I kept thinking I had heard it before. And I’ll definitely be going back to listen to this episode again as my children grow! X

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